Nice images, Anthony. Blogger wouldn't let me see them earlier - just little white squares with red x in each. I like the frozen motion effect of the dual images. Softly suggestive of the passing of time.
Thanks for the compliments ... very much appreciated. I like to beaver away at these little films ...
If I had access to the technology I'd make films of nothing but super-impositions, layer upon layer, and in a Joycean-Wakean style, disappear up my own fundament, joyfully ...
What is annoying, in putting the films up on Myspace, is the loss of quality ... I may be working with basic equipment, but they have a level of technical profiency that is being lost .... sometimes when they go up on Myspace it makes me look like a chimp with a camera. Actually, given the sometimes interesting abstract paintings chimps can come up with, a cinema made by our primate cousins could be worth a look.
"...sometimes when they go up on Myspace it makes me look like a chimp with a camera..." LOL!
Similar thing with scanning in paintings..the digitisation sometimes makes crap things look good, but also makes the good stuff look crap. Swings n roundabouts, I guess. It's the price we pay for increased visibility for the stuff we do.
I did some poxy animated 'trippy' movies on 8mm back in the 80s...keep meaning to get them onto some format I can edit and load up on the net. Still got some film in my camera from nearly 20 years ago that I started and never finished...wonder how much the film stock has degraded...it used to look better, more saturated, the older the stock you used, but presumably there's a break off point where stuff degrades into unusability....
It's a trade-off between quality and visibility. Oh God, I love film, I was a real purist and disdained video ... yes, old film stock is great, the lushness of the colours and the grain. I love the smaller gauges, and it was only the need to actually get some stuff shown that convinced me to use digital ... it's easier to use and disseminate.
From my experience, YouTube is better quality than myspace, vids-wise. Ages ago, I started a dedicated murmurists films myspace page. Such a long-winded process, only got one film on the bleeding thing! It's amazing we can uplaod this stuff for free, though, isn't it? How long will that last? Maybe it will last... I mean myspace is full of ads; but blogger... not a one, really. It is a good time - as distribution/exposure is tons easier. Still same probs re. production and getting something concrete back, of course.
Yes, I should be glad of a free public forum, shouldn't knock it ... The latest film I put up came out very jerky, froze in parts, jumped through others - there's my beautiful editing down the toilet. He said.
Yes, pretty hit and miss. I've had same issues. I suppose stuffing thousands upon thousands of essentially big files onto these servers has its probs.
What equipment do you use to render your films? I've had difficulties with Nero 7 - though it is a rip. But everyone uses it, and gets consistent results, rip or not! I've wasted lots of time on it. Decided to shell out and get a legal one! The films I've made have been made using my webcam, and using jpgs I've made. I have heaps of stuff on tapes from the camcorder though; but am not encouraged to get this onto the laptop as it often proves to be a wasted hour!
Webcam cinema ... it could be a genre all of it's own. I use an iMac to edit digital video, then just upload it to Myspace via a laptop ... tried to upload a short as a Quicktime file yesterday, but it kept going wrong. I guess I should try to compress the films and upload them, but am a technical primitive. The iMovie programme, though basic, has been very good ... considering I used to laborously cut and splice super-8, it's a luxury.
Cheers Kek. It's crude, but I don't mind that myself. I tend to like a degree of simplicity. Same reason I don't use Photoshop - though I have it. Not even got it installed on the laptop. I use crap programmes instead!
The iMac stuff is unfamiliar to me. You use a Mac - ie. a Mac PC? I have Windows XL on a HP laptop; use a Sony camcorder; in need of something usable and reliable to make these devices talk to one another. I know of Roxio, Nero - obviously. There are probably lots of others!
Yes, I have a Mac, for editing ... then a labourous process, for a number of reasons, of dumping the edited film onto digicam then downloading onto Rose's laptop (which has an editing programme) then uploading from there to the Web. I wish I was more proficient with computers and digital this and that. There is probably an optimum way to compress and upload stuff to Myspace, , wish I knew it.
I used to have a Mac. That was back in the dayswhen Macs and PCs didn't communicate at all. I started the Doctorate on it, and was then kind of stuck with it for the duration. I had lots of problems making the eventual CDROM of my appendices. But the sysytem itself was more robust than a PC; as is generally accepted. It was 16 years old by the time it died. Can't imagine this laptop lasting that long. The printer, a HP, was still fine even after the Mac went! Amazing for moving parts. That's why I got a HP laptop.
Anyway, I'm learning; but, like you, I'm not there tech-wise yet. It's necessary to get into this stuff, though.
I have a suspicion that I am, at heart, a Luddite - but it's either use digital technology or stay in an ivory tower and never get anything made, not even the few short films I've made so far.
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James Joust meets Marcelle Proyce.
Again and again and again.
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irish
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french
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bloody foreigners all wot?
Johnny Foreigners ... they come over here, take our jobs, take our votes for best novel ever written ...
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Nice images, Anthony. Blogger wouldn't let me see them earlier - just little white squares with red x in each. I like the frozen motion effect of the dual images. Softly suggestive of the passing of time.
Lush, man...fucking lush. You've got a great eye for tone, colour n image.
Thanks for the compliments ... very much appreciated.
I like to beaver away at these little films ...
If I had access to the technology I'd make films of nothing but super-impositions, layer upon layer, and in a Joycean-Wakean style, disappear up my own fundament, joyfully ...
What is annoying, in putting the films up on Myspace, is the loss of quality ... I may be working with basic equipment, but they have a level of technical profiency that is being lost .... sometimes when they go up on Myspace it makes me look like a chimp with a camera.
Actually, given the sometimes interesting abstract paintings chimps can come up with, a cinema made by our primate cousins could be worth a look.
"...sometimes when they go up on Myspace it makes me look like a chimp with a camera..." LOL!
Similar thing with scanning in paintings..the digitisation sometimes makes crap things look good, but also makes the good stuff look crap. Swings n roundabouts, I guess. It's the price we pay for increased visibility for the stuff we do.
I did some poxy animated 'trippy' movies on 8mm back in the 80s...keep meaning to get them onto some format I can edit and load up on the net. Still got some film in my camera from nearly 20 years ago that I started and never finished...wonder how much the film stock has degraded...it used to look better, more saturated, the older the stock you used, but presumably there's a break off point where stuff degrades into unusability....
It's a trade-off between quality and visibility. Oh God, I love film, I was a real purist and disdained video ... yes, old film stock is great, the lushness of the colours and the grain. I love the smaller gauges, and it was only the need to actually get some stuff shown that convinced me to use digital ... it's easier to use and disseminate.
From my experience, YouTube is better quality than myspace, vids-wise. Ages ago, I started a dedicated murmurists films myspace page. Such a long-winded process, only got one film on the bleeding thing! It's amazing we can uplaod this stuff for free, though, isn't it? How long will that last? Maybe it will last... I mean myspace is full of ads; but blogger... not a one, really. It is a good time - as distribution/exposure is tons easier. Still same probs re. production and getting something concrete back, of course.
Yes, I should be glad of a free public forum, shouldn't knock it ...
The latest film I put up came out very jerky, froze in parts, jumped through others - there's my beautiful editing down the toilet.
He said.
Yes, pretty hit and miss. I've had same issues. I suppose stuffing thousands upon thousands of essentially big files onto these servers has its probs.
What equipment do you use to render your films? I've had difficulties with Nero 7 - though it is a rip. But everyone uses it, and gets consistent results, rip or not! I've wasted lots of time on it. Decided to shell out and get a legal one! The films I've made have been made using my webcam, and using jpgs I've made. I have heaps of stuff on tapes from the camcorder though; but am not encouraged to get this onto the laptop as it often proves to be a wasted hour!
Shooting films w/ a webcam; crikey, that's really obvious but I hadn't thought of that...that's a genius idea...
Webcam cinema ... it could be a genre all of it's own.
I use an iMac to edit digital video, then just upload it to Myspace via a laptop ... tried to upload a short as a Quicktime file yesterday, but it kept going wrong. I guess I should try to compress the films and upload them, but am a technical primitive.
The iMovie programme, though basic, has been very good ... considering I used to laborously cut and splice super-8, it's a luxury.
Cheers Kek. It's crude, but I don't mind that myself. I tend to like a degree of simplicity. Same reason I don't use Photoshop - though I have it. Not even got it installed on the laptop. I use crap programmes instead!
The iMac stuff is unfamiliar to me. You use a Mac - ie. a Mac PC? I have Windows XL on a HP laptop; use a Sony camcorder; in need of something usable and reliable to make these devices talk to one another. I know of Roxio, Nero - obviously. There are probably lots of others!
Yes, I have a Mac, for editing ... then a labourous process, for a number of reasons, of dumping the edited film onto digicam then downloading onto Rose's laptop (which has an editing programme) then uploading from there to the Web. I wish I was more proficient with computers and digital this and that. There is probably an optimum way to compress and upload stuff to Myspace, , wish I knew it.
I used to have a Mac. That was back in the dayswhen Macs and PCs didn't communicate at all. I started the Doctorate on it, and was then kind of stuck with it for the duration. I had lots of problems making the eventual CDROM of my appendices. But the sysytem itself was more robust than a PC; as is generally accepted. It was 16 years old by the time it died. Can't imagine this laptop lasting that long. The printer, a HP, was still fine even after the Mac went! Amazing for moving parts. That's why I got a HP laptop.
Anyway, I'm learning; but, like you, I'm not there tech-wise yet. It's necessary to get into this stuff, though.
I have a suspicion that I am, at heart, a Luddite - but it's either use digital technology or stay in an ivory tower and never get anything made, not even the few short films I've made so far.
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