Friday, April 13, 2007

He's The Mighty Thunder Rider

Catweazle, say I? Lemmy reckoned Turner always looked so great that it was like being on stage with a Viking beserker ... whether getting down with some prime space rock, communicating with the folks on Venus via the Great Pyramid, busking in Wales or just generally exuding good vibrations and peace and love, he's The Mighty Thunder Rider, yes he is.


Blogger Geddy Lee Helium Voice. said...

Nice one, Anthony. Who's next in this saxy line?

Always liked Bowie's contributions myself; and that animalistic sax-ejac of Scott Walker's on The Drift. What about Cosy from TG? Or was it trumpet she pretended to play?

11:45 PM  
Blogger St. Anthony said...

I think Turner added a certain something to Hawkwind that they sorely missed after he left ... not just song writing or playing, but an indefinable something or other ... wasn't he nicknamed the conscience of Hawkwind? Like Eno leaving Roxy - they didn't just lose his synth playing and treatments, but a spirit, a feeling. Once it's gone, it's irreplacable. Cale and the Velvets, Eno and Roxy ... you can replace an instrument but you can't replace the ineffable.

Always liked Bowie's sax-playing, wish he'd done more of it.
Cosi, yes, it was the cornet she abused.

7:04 AM  
Blogger Geddy Lee Helium Voice. said...

Cornet, yes, I remember now.

You answered my question - Jackson, of course, nice one.

I think Hawkwing lost a certain noodling lyricism when Turner was booted. I recall reading yearsago, Brock axed Turner partly because of the noodling. But the band are essentially not great players. Brock is basic; using same kind of vaguely Raga/Eastern modes and riffs - that E to F thing. Basic drumming. Simon House's violin added something. But Turner kept that slight Jazz thing going - a tacet connection to the related Gong camp. I always found Gong more interesting, myself. I suppose, Brock wanted to move more in a more New Wave direction, and the uberHippie sax mad bastard at his side dragged it back to the 60s/70s. Contingency is often flawed in hindsight, isn't it? Not sure of the chronology, but I'm assumming Warrior was Turner's last Hawkwind outing ... and that Quark is later, maybe one LP later? Well, haven't heard Quark for years, but remember it being a good LP ... Hassan i Sabba (sp?) was a childhood favourite. We always tried to play the intro! Piece of piss, too!

4:43 PM  
Blogger Geddy Lee Helium Voice. said...

Typo - Hawkwing! Why not?!

4:43 PM  
Blogger St. Anthony said...

Yes, there's Brock ejecting Turner for his lack of musicianship, and sodding around ... ironic, given that Brock, as you say, is rather basic himself.
Turner's last album was Astounding Sounds ... then they made Quark ... a good album, but as you say, one that gestures towards New Wave ... no wonder Brock wanted Nik out!Turner did return for one album in the 80s ... can't remember which one.
I like Turner, from what I can gather of his personality ... 'uberhippie' indeed!

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